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Subject : Intuition Skin and MUI Themes Site?

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#  tokai :

 2009/9/24 16:06
# Hi there,

I just saw this link on amiga-news.de about a OS4 theme site. While of course tastes differ, I think it's a nice idea.

http://amitheme.amiga-ng.org/themes_1.html


Why don't we have such site for MorphOS which collects the various skins and themes by different people?

Who steps up and does such site?

Someone? It's your chance to do something. I often hear the excuse "I'm not a programmer, not a graphician, not a <insertsomething> and that's why I just consume things others do for me". But doing a small website shouldn't be a big deal really, right?

Don't expect the MorphOS Team doing all the work (they have certainly more important things to do ;-) ) and that's certainly something which could be done by YOU (Yes, you! :-) ).


I'm looking forward to see some lazy MorphOS user asses moving now and start doing something! Do not disappoint me. :-)


regards,
tokai

#  Develin :

 2009/9/25 19:31
# Good idea tokai,

I think we have a lot of ppl. with potential todo so!

#  sadddam :

 2009/9/25 19:55
# i've seen that site too and i was impressed.
a site like this is really missing for morphos!
and that could be a chance to collect all morphos skins from out there, coz from time to time i see screenshots with skins i've never seen before and one cannot download them (i've got at least 4 screenshots with unkown skins:)

tokai, i really like your new, unorthodox ways to getting attention and keep things going forward!

#  warface :

 2009/9/25 21:51
# Am not myself into making the site, but all my skins are offered free of charge for the purpose :-)

[ Edited by warface on 2009/9/25 21:53 ]

#  sadddam :

 2009/9/25 22:08
# emeric: all your skins? i've seen only one (spacestation).

#  warface :

 2009/9/26 11:18
# Then look harder :-) Besides Space Station there has been one called Blue Cadillac also. And also there was an ANR skin unless am completely mistaken :-)

preview.png

Get Blue Cadillac from here.

#  warface :

 2009/9/26 11:27
# And there is also one more waiting for full alpha transparency of skin pieces.

morphos20borderpreview2.png

#  tokai :

 2009/9/26 11:34
# AFAIK full alpha translucency/ transparency is possible these days (with 3D layers). So you probably can finish that skin now. Maybe still provide a version for 2D layers w/o the transparency stuff. :)

#  Papiosaur :

 2009/9/26 11:41
# hello,

in website www.meta-morphos.org, there is a gallery of pictures, i have create a part named "Skins" wich can contain each picture of skin.
You can purpose picture of your skin if you want ;)

Gallery of Skins

too, i have create a pack with all skins i can found in a archive (extract to sys: only and you have all skins installed).

Pack Skin N?1

[ Edited by Papiosaur on 2009/9/26 12:06 ]

#  warface :

 2009/9/26 23:01
# Quote:


tokai wrote:
AFAIK full alpha translucency/ transparency is possible these days (with 3D layers). So you probably can finish that skin now. Maybe still provide a version for 2D layers w/o the transparency stuff. :)


When I get back from Munchen and the Octoberfest I will give it a try and report the results back :-)

#  CountRaven :

 2009/9/29 3:03
# Can someone give me some more information about the skin @ MorphOS? I am extracting Papiosaur's skin package and yes I am finding all of them on the Skins menu when I get to edit a screen mode. But I thought that when I would select a different skin changes would appear on my wallpaper as well. Well I am just getting some changes on Windows and title bar colors and things like that. Do I have to do something more in order to get a full changed desktop like this:

http://www.meta-morphos.org/modules/td-galerie/imgs/20090927212732-1.jpg

#  Jambalah :

 2009/9/29 8:05
# Hi CountRaven!
When you change a skin the settings for that skin are automally loaded: skin config, MUI prefs for that skin and MUIGfx for that skin. If you open MOSSYS:prefs/MUIGfx you will notice various folders,
everyone of them containing a set of arrows, buttons and so on for general use or for a specific skin
(Ferox and Ghost, in this case).
All this setting are stored in skin config and MUI prefs for a specific skin.
What you see in that screenshot, and that can't be set by a skin configuration, is a mix of PolyNet bar,
MorphOS panel and ClockToy.
Under those bars, you can see Statline, as backdrop, with Wetter bar overlapped, with the same background due to create the illusion that is one bar.
On MetaMorphos and here in Morphzone ("New MorphOS 2.3" thread) , there is the link to a .lha file with PolyNet configuration, some graphic and a mini-pseudo-tutorial I realised in html. This is the link:

PolyNetConfig

Hope it could be useful!

#  walkero :

 2009/9/29 8:30
# Have a look at www.amiga-look.org where anyone can make an account and upload your themes there for anyone to find. It's usefull to have all themes, wallpapers and grafx things that can make our workbench look better.

#  XzIt :

 2009/9/30 22:51
# Well, wish granted tokai!
soon rdy with my skin database along with wallpapers and my favorite files/archives :D

Hope you like it. i'll upload it tomorrow.

XzIt

Amiga 500, 600, 3000, 4000, CD32, CDTV, Dreamcast, Nintendo GBA, DS, Wii. Pegasos 2 G4 1ghz

#  XzIt :

 2009/10/1 14:54
# here you go, found under morphos/skins section.

http://www.sapphire.no/~xzit/index.html

Still some skins to come, missing some screenshots...

btw, if anyone know the name of skin authors im missing send a mail, plz :D

if you have any skins you made, send it to my email plz.

Wallpaper section soon online, still not rdy.


XzIt

Amiga 500, 600, 3000, 4000, CD32, CDTV, Dreamcast, Nintendo GBA, DS, Wii. Pegasos 2 G4 1ghz

[ Edited by XzIt on 2009/10/1 14:55 ]

#  Jambalah :

 2009/10/1 15:17
# Wow! Really good work!!!!!
Thanks Xzit!

#  tokai :

 2009/10/1 16:01
# Looking good already.

One thing I have noticed.. the top links do not work in IBrowse (or maybe require javascript, dunno). That probably should be fixed. :)

#  Papiosaur :

 2009/10/1 16:57
# excellent presentation Xzit !!!

i change the link in menu "Galerie/skins" of Meta-morphos.org with your site in destination ;-)

#  jcmarcos :

 2009/10/1 17:24
# Quote:

tokai wrote:

Looking good already.


I agree. BUt I'd like these kind of things inside MorphZone. Wel, I'd like them inside the official MorphOS Team web site (which looks gorgeous, I'd say)...

Quote:

One thing I have noticed.. the top links do not work in IBrowse (or maybe require javascript, dunno). That probably should be fixed. :)


Yes, I think that, if it works, it must be pure coincidence: There's an anchor element (the link) that has a button inside (declared with the "button" tag, that i've never seen in my life, but indeed paints a button), that does nothing when its clicked. That's perhaps the coder gave for granted that the "click" event of the button would "bubble up" into the anchor, but that doesn't have to happen.
I'd use a plain

INPUT Type="Button"
Value="MorphOS"
OnClick="navigate('mos.html');"

And this ends my contribution as a coder in the MorphOS world.

(yes, I'm THAT briliant)

:-P

#  tokai :

 2009/10/1 18:29
# Sorry.. still won't work that way ;-) Will require JavaScript; which I keep disabled in IBrowse. :-)

Just using a normal link would be best. What's wrong with that? :)

#  tokai :

 2009/10/1 18:38
# Some more remarks...

Quote:


I agree. BUt I'd like these kind of things inside MorphZone. Wel, I'd like them inside the official MorphOS Team web site (which looks gorgeous, I'd say)...



Well... MorphZone is pretty much dead in the 'beeing developed on' departement; which you see on this broken default skin which is currently in use and breaks everywhere you look. So much about that... :-)


And I do NOT agree that this should be part of the MorphOS Team website. Do you want the MorphOS Team spending tons of time on their website and handling 3rd party skin release support or do you rather see the OS itself progressing? :-) You know the MorphOS Team can't do everything... some things must come from the community too. :)

That's why I started this thread here and asked (some) users to do it. :-) Which seems to be progressing nicely now. It's a good start with potential. Of course it must constantly be improved and I hope we'll see more people making skins in the future. You don't have to be a programmer for that, right? ;-)

#  XzIt :

 2009/10/1 21:40
# Thanks everyone for support!

will have a new updated page tomorrow night.
btw, will not have any java in new version as i dont really like it.

X

Amiga 500, 600, 3000, 4000, CD32, CDTV, Dreamcast, Nintendo GBA, DS, Wii. Pegasos 2 G4 1ghz

#  koszer :

 2009/10/1 22:12
# Right. But how about a simple guide how to make your own skin? I've tried to modify some existing ones, but so far the results are quite... erm... unexpected.

#  jcmarcos :

 2009/10/2 9:47
# Quote:

tokai wrote:

I do NOT agree that this should be part of the MorphOS Team website. Do you want the MorphOS Team spending tons of time on their website and handling 3rd party skin release support or do you rather see the OS itself progressing?


Noooooo... I want the MorphOS Team to acquire a public relations team. That is, that a couple of guys add community content to the official web site. Something that, if has never happened in all these years, will not happen ever.
This way, MorphOS appears to the public as some kind of obscure, elite operating system. Because it must be almost the only one that refuses to have feedback about itself in its very web site. Something that almost everyone expects, this days.
Not having it makes it look extremely clean.

#  koan :

 2009/10/2 11:09
# Hi XzIt

Great work, I really appreciate it.

One small suggestion: can you make a small cropped version of each screenshot, perhaps about 200x200 and show that ? I don't want to have to wait for an SVGA screenshot to download when I want to browse through quickly. If you leave a link to the screenshots I can still download the big image to check it out.

Thanks

#  XzIt :

 2009/10/2 18:20
# im doing a over all change in the web site, i have made some buttons along with some bars etc.
I hope to be finished by end of this day, but making the hompage from scrats again takes sometime.


X

#  Jambalah :

 2009/10/2 18:38
# Well done Xzit!!!
And thanks!!

@ Koszer:
that could be a good idea......

#  Bladerunner :

 2009/10/2 22:41
# Quote:

I hope we'll see more people making skins in the future. You don't have to be a programmer for that, right? ;-)


Well, seeing those new effects introduced in MorphOS 2.x I 'm tempted to do new skin stuff and give the old once an overhaul.
However still 1.4.5 here and testing skins in 2 hours (half an hour?!) is probably not much fun ;)

Back on topic:
Nice skin site, well done.

#  XzIt :

 2009/10/3 10:12
# well, the site is updated.
everything is not up and working yet but very soon :D
All skins are available atleast, still think i have some .lha archives with more skins. have to look into that.

well enjoy everyone, site will be updated in weekend.


X

#  Jambalah :

 2009/10/3 12:48
# Congrats Xzit!
You are doing a really good work!
I mailed you a wallpaper in two different colour version.
So, when you will open the relative section... ;-)

#  XzIt :

 2009/10/3 13:04
# thx, Jambalah :D
i hope to get wallpaper section up before weekend ends.


X

#  XzIt :

 2009/10/3 19:49
# koan?
do you need smaller then 200x160?
thats the size of the pictures thats shown when listing skins.
when pressing the picture you get orignal size.
or do you want another link to see the screen shot in like 400x400?

X

#  Sprocki :

 2009/10/4 12:10
# He wants you to display thumbnails on http://www.sapphire.no/~xzit/skin.html but not just load the original images and resize them online. Thumbnails are getting loaded much faster and when you click on one of them you can show the original picture in fullsize.

#  XzIt :

 2009/10/7 15:43
# all pictures on the site are scaled in advance, in 200x150/160.
soo there is no resizing on the fly while loading page.
Hope that helps.

X

p.s: there is a huge update in the web page this week, had to rewirite the hole page from scratch, did't like the html code.
date? 10.10.09

Stay tuned

[ Edited by XzIt on 2009/10/7 15:44 ]

#  koan :

 2009/10/8 0:25
# Hi XzIt,

I mean crop 200x200 from the screenshot and show the cropped image without any scaling next to the thumbnail. Then you can click on the thumbnail if you want to view the whole screen.

It doesn't have to be 200x200, it could be any convenient size. I think a cropped shot would be a good way to show the quality of the skin. Thumbnails are better for showing wallpaper.

Thanks



[ Edited by koan on 2009/10/7 23:31 ]

#  jacadcaps :

 2009/10/8 11:33
# @koszer

Well, I'm willing to provide enough information about the skinning system for someone to write proper documentation. I don't actually have the time to write the docs myself.

#  Jambalah :

 2009/10/8 14:16
# @jacadcaps:
Could I try?!? Those times I'm getting more and more interested in skinning.
I discovered something but something else is missing.. =)
Llike everybody, I have a lot of other things to do but I like the idea...!

#  jacadcaps :

 2009/10/9 14:58
# @Jambalah

Yeah, sure. I'll try to prepare some simple list of all the supported switches, flags and bitmaps as soon as I'll have some time for it (in not more than a few weeks I hope ;)

#  Jambalah :

 2009/10/9 16:05
# @ Jacadcaps

That's really kind! Thanks!


Quote:

as soon as I'll have some time for it (in not more than a few weeks I hope ;)


I understand... So, don't worry ;)

#  XzIt :

 2009/10/11 0:10
# delays, delays, delays.....
well more delay :D

will add the cropped pictures over weekend.
been mutch work latley and haven't done anything with site:/

laterz peeps!

X

#  Korni :

 2009/10/11 13:42
# Quote from my homepage: "For centuries MorphOS has been recognised in the world for its delicious look and unmatched natural feeling. We bring you MorphOS Skins for your relaxation and enjoyment. Skins have been specially selected by a highly skilled team of MorphOS experts at MorphOS Headquarters, from skins which are grown in the lush green highlands of the island of Papillon to satisfy all MorphOS users who really enjoy a good look of MorphOS." Hope that you will like it :). http://korni.ovh.org/morphos-skins/

#  Jambalah :

 2009/10/11 14:43
# Oh?!? WOW! :-)
A very good work, Korni! Congratulations!!!
And thanks!

#  Jambalah :

 2009/11/12 9:28
# Hi all!
Take a look here:

ThreeSkins

And if you like what you see.. don't esitate to download!
:-)

#  sadddam :

 2009/11/12 13:59
# @jambalah

nice! esp. the black one.
just one thought: why are the buttons (close, depth, etc..) at the window title are so far from the edge? they would look better at the traditional positions in my opinion.

btw how you achieved to reduce that anr skin that much?

#  BurnTwice :

 2009/11/12 15:57
# Wow, what a great response to Tokai?s call!
:-)
My comment goes in jcmarcos?s direction. We see a lot of links to excellent repositories of skins and wallpapers and therefore, for one interested it is a lot of efford, searching, following links etc. One who is not frequently visiting MorphZone hardly will even know about this great stuff. A collection of links on a "central" MorphOS related page would be very good. Why not introducing a link to a section like "3rd party software" or "contributions" on the official MorphOS site? Of course, this section would not be managed by the Devs themselves...
I agree that Morphos looks a little "faceless" or "amorphous" (excuse the strong words ;-) ) to the outside world. Even for a beginner, some research effort is needed to get to get everything up and running.
Forming kind of a corporation out of the MOS-bunch would be good in respect of coordinating development, representing the platform and being more professional.

#  Jambalah :

 2009/11/12 18:59
# @sadddam:

to say the truth butons are... in the original position! In fact, if you eliminate the "window shadow" parts you will see they are in that position. To make the lateral parts of window I use to modify that shadow increasing dimensions due to draw the parts with alpha channel. So, they are transparent. You can use the traditionals "shadows" (those in the "Ferox" skin, f.e.) without loose the window top bar trasparency, or deselecting "Enhanced display" in screen settings. No shadows and no transparency.
For aminet radio, you see an "arrow" in right bottom corner (assuming you use the green skin). Clicking on it open a bar with "# i S T G" symbols. The first is a frame around the anr, windows the others are displays: deselect all and press the arrow again to close the bar. You will have a reduced radio ;)
I'm always hoping you solve Peggy problem...=(

@BurnTwice:

Agree! As you see in the topic concerning "how should MorphOS be promoted?" it's a long and heavy work that should have done with a coordination. And Senex showed a link in wich you can see the beginning of this work. And it seems real promising....

MTLOS

[ Edited by Jambalah on 2009/11/12 18:48 ]

#  XzIt :

 2009/11/13 12:52
# The skin base is doing trought a big remake, because of my late hours at work haven't been doing mutch latley...
But the site will be updated and uploaded as soon as possible.
Btw im trying to think of a name for the page in general.

What do you guys think of "X-Base"?
or maybe "SkinHQ", "Skin-HQ"?

Some suggestions would be nice, thx in advance :D

XzIt

#  BurnTwice :

 2009/11/13 14:21
# @ Jambalah
Yes, MTLOS is indeed a good start! Just for fun I looked up MorphOS in Wikipedia. I only found a short article in german.
So there is a shortcoming already at the "first step" of searching facts on MOS. A new article, also in english including a link to MTLOS, would be a good starting point to enter the MOS-world.

@ XzIt
Maybe Skin-HQ could arouse associations not related to MOS ;-)
Maybe "Pigment" -a treasury of beautiful Butterfly Designs. Or "The Butterfly?s Wing" ....

#  CISC :

 2009/11/13 15:23
# Quote:

Yes, MTLOS is indeed a good start! Just for fun I looked up MorphOS in Wikipedia. I only found a short article in german.
So there is a shortcoming already at the "first step" of searching facts on MOS.


I don't know if you searched for "MOS" or if you use some other wikipedia than the rest of us, but atleast the Wikipedia I know of returned a perfectly fine article when searching for "MorphOS"...


- CISC

#  BurnTwice :

 2009/11/13 21:33
# I searched for "MorphOS" in google and the Wiki article returned was in german. But it?s true, you can switch to the english Version, erhemmm I somehow missed this point. ;-) Sorry...
But still there is no link to the MTLOS. It would be an excellent completion to the short Wiki entry.
In google, yeah, you indeed have a lot of MOS-related hits.
My point was to have comprehensive and easy starting point for retrieving info and content without to much hazzle browsing through the web. I think here in newbies and those interested in MOS.

#  pampers :

 2009/11/13 23:11
# Jambalah: I would like to try to make my own skin, is there any tutorial available or would you have any tips how to start with that?

#  XzIt :

 2009/11/14 16:04
# maybe, "Butterfly Effect" ?

or "The Butterfly Effect" ?

Plz gimme some input guys, what do you think ?

XzIt

#  Daff :

 2009/11/14 16:23
# Xzit : a title simple and MorphOS-focused will be nice. Exemple : "MorphOS Skins Page".

And don't forget to add a text to present your page : what is MorphOS ? what is a skin ? how to use them ? etc.

#  Jambalah :

 2009/11/14 18:06
# @Pampers:

A tutorial doesn't exist. The idea to make one went out in this topic and I proposed myself as one who could try to make it.
I'm waiting some "tips" from Jacadcaps (that is much more expert of me :-)) but in the same time MorphOS 2.4 came out and this is enough to make him much more busy as before, as he pointed.
Try to start reading a "SkinConfig" file of a skin (in "BlueMarineSkin" there's one commented and I added some more) modifying single parts of an existing skin to see what you are changing. I started from "Ferox" skin, that is the most complete (personalized windows bar and arrows, shadows).
I'm writing all I discover as it could be useful. I will let you know ;-)

#  BurnTwice :

 2009/11/15 2:31
# @XzIt
I like "Butterfly Effect"!

#  dake :

 2009/11/15 10:11
# @Jambalah
Hi thanx for your nice skins!

@all If i change to 16bit to save vram and use Jambalah's skins on my mini the system becomes very slow in rendering graphics, do anyone know why? is it because of transparency effect?

#  Jambalah :

 2009/11/15 10:43
# Hi Dake! It's a pleasure you like them!
For the system becoming slow, I guess is a conseguence of transparency. Or better of enhanced display. Try to deselect it in screen settings and see what will happen. Shadows and transparency won't be active and system should be faster.

#  dake :

 2009/11/15 10:58
# @Jambalah
Thanx, deselect enhanced display did the trick.

#  koan :

 2010/3/12 11:15
# I've been drawing some border graphics for my Ambient skin but when I select my theme in System settings Ambient does not show them.

What is the rule Ambient uses for deciding whether to show border graphics ?

My guess was that you need graphics for all parts of the border and that sizes should be compatible. My theme does not use transparency (yet).

#  walkero :

 2010/3/12 16:01
# There is always the www.amiga-look.org where you can upload themes, wallpapers, even your MUI preferences and Icons so that people could find and use.

#  XzIt :

 2010/3/28 20:25
# Well after?a very long time i finally got to do the Homepage, updated and uploaded =)
Need some input from you guys on the wallpaper section the name of authors for pictures would be nice?

Btw the skin tutorial sounds good would like to put that up here too :D
so we get a good archive of the skin related stuff, hope you enjoy your stay at Butterfly Effect.

http://www.sapphire.no/~xzit/

XzIt

#  Jambalah :

 2010/3/30 10:44
# Very nice upgrade!! About wallpapers authors name, number 4, 5, 7 and 8 realised by Deb (his name here on Morphzone).
Sad MorphOS Girl

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