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MorphOS : Beta Release of MorphOS Software Development Kit 2

Posted By: ASiegel. on 2010/6/6 12:40:26 (Reads: 577)

The MorphOS development team would like to announce the immediate availability of the MorphOS Software Development Kit 2. This first release is officially in beta state and will be followed up by updates in the near future. Developers who would like to test the software development kit will need a computer running the recently finished MorphOS 2.5 and at least 300 MB of free disk space.

Notable features of the MorphOS SDK 2 are as follows:

MorphED with MUI-centric quickhelp (shows syntax of MUI methods, MUI special values for an attribute, etc)

GCC 2.95.3 compiler with AltiVec support and C++ enhancements

GCC 4.4.4 compiler

MUI, Reggae and System documentation in text and aguide formats

Example source code

Development utilities: logtool and Wipeout

Complete GeekGadgets environment

Easy to use installer

You can download the MorphOS SDK 2 in our files section

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Jambalah

Re: Beta Release of MorphOS Software Development Kit 2

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Nice releas! I'm not a developer but I appreciate this kit! Thx|

»2010/6/6 14:43

MDW

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We are waiting for update of CubicIDE. Has someone already informed author of CubicIDE? :)

»2010/6/6 16:17

discreetfx

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Thanx MorphOS Team, this will come in handy for the MorphOS version of Aladdin 4D 6.0.

»2010/6/6 20:56

eliot

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A new version of Aladdin?
Sounds cool to me!

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»2010/6/6 21:12

magnetic

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Sweet jesus finally! Good job..

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»2010/6/6 21:19

ausPPC

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Much appreciated!

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»2010/6/6 23:02

Andreas_Wolf

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> A new version of Aladdin?

...which was announced in December 2007(!) for OS4, AROS, MorphOS, Mac OS X and Windows:

http://aladdin4d.blogspot.com/2007/12/offical-press-release-detailing-aladdin.html

And I had thought you know this:

http://www.morphzone.org/modules/news/article.php?storyid=1686#4028

;-)

[ Edited by Andreas_Wolf On 2010/6/7 2:45 ]

»2010/6/7 1:40

discreetfx

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@Andreas_Wolf

Turns out Aladdin 4D required an extensive rewrite to modernize it and make it multi-platform. We did not know what we were getting into! Over 3000 hours have already gone into the development of Aladdin 4D 6.0. I want it done yesterday but good software development takes time.

»2010/6/7 3:44

discreetfx

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Double post via OWB, sorry.

[ Edited by discreetfx On 2010/6/6 21:46 ]

»2010/6/7 3:45

jcmarcos

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Great! At last, an official release for fresh development tools.
Why are there two different compilers? And why one is so old?

»2010/6/7 10:00

Chain-Q

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@jcmarcos
That's right, GCC 2.95.3 is old. But "old" in this case means proven and robust. It's still used to compile most parts of MorphOS itself for many years now. GCC 4.4 is new and it might be required to compile new things, especially random C++ sources from the Internet. It generally works well, but it's not that extensively tested, so problems might arise, when you try to compile older stuff. Hence both compilers are included, so developers can upgrade to the new SDK now, but to a new compiler later. It gives choice, so I don't see a problem with that.

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»2010/6/7 10:18

Andreas_Wolf

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> GCC 4.4 is new

Does this new GCC 4.4.4 from MorphOS SDK support AltiVec?

»2010/6/7 12:01

jacadcaps

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@Andreas_Wolf

Yes, both gcc packages support AltiVec.

»2010/6/7 13:31

zukow

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does morphed have invzeropage hits during searching fixed ?

»2010/6/7 13:51

jacadcaps

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@zukow

No.

»2010/6/7 14:04

munk

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Why is MorphOS 2.5 required to peek at the contents of the SDK?

Is the GCC4.4 port a complete port with all the features of the older 2.95.3?

»2010/6/8 7:36

jacadcaps

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@munk

Is it? It's just a tar.xz.

GCC4.4.4 does have baserel support, just like 2.95.3.

»2010/6/8 8:21

munk

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@jacadcaps:
> Is it? It's just a tar.xz

Ah, it's xz compressed. Thank you for that information. I tried to open the included file with 7-zip and that failed.

»2010/6/8 9:40

phx

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Is there a port of xz for MorphOS or AmigaOS?

And why not just using lha, lzx or gzip? Is the compression ratio so much better to make it harder for everyone to get access to the SDK? :-?

»2010/6/8 10:07

jacadcaps

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@ phx

MorphOS 2.5 obviously comes with xz support.

And yes, it does make sense to use it: bzip2 produces a file about twice as large.

»2010/6/8 10:11

Piru

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Quote:

Is there a port of xz for MorphOS or AmigaOS?

Yes. xz is included with MorphOS 2.5.

xz is public domain and the source code is available from http://tukaani.org/xz/

Quote:

And why not just using lha, lzx or gzip? Is the compression ratio so much better to make it harder for everyone to get access to the SDK? :-?

Yes. The compression ratio is significantly better.

sdk.lha 58M
sdk.gz 53M
(sorry didn't have lzx at hand)

The XZ Utils is easily available and public domain. it's trivial to compile for pretty much all platforms.

[ Edited by Piru On 2010/6/8 12:27 ]

»2010/6/8 10:12

phx

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Quote:

Yes. The compression ratio is significantly better.

sdk.lha 58M
sdk.gz 53M

Ok, indeed, that's a lot!

»2010/6/8 12:25

guruman

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@Andreas_Wolf
> Does this new GCC 4.4.4 from MorphOS SDK support AltiVec?

As far as I understand, Altivec support was explicitly mentioned only for gcc 2.95 because it was added by the MorphOS team, while gcc 4.4 includes it by default on all distributions, so it is not an additional feature compared to the standard gcc 4.4. I might be wrong, though.

Kind regards,
Andrea

»2010/6/8 22:41

Andreas_Wolf

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> As far as I understand, Altivec support was explicitly mentioned only for gcc 2.95
> because it was added by the MorphOS team, while gcc 4.4 includes it by default on
> all distributions, so it is not an additional feature compared to the standard gcc 4.4.

Considering that AltiVec support was officially added with GCC 3.1 your reasoning makes perfect sense :-)

»2010/6/9 1:00

jcmarcos

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Quote:

guruman wrote:

Altivec support was added by the MorphOS team

Wow! The Team also "makes" their own compilers! Next step, make their own CPUs... :-D

»2010/6/10 9:52

Henes

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Motorola is the author of the patch.

»2010/6/10 10:15

Leo

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Quote:

It generally works well, but it's not that extensively tested, so problems might arise, when you try to compile older stuff.

The fact that most modern OS are built using this version isn't enough as an "extensive" test ?

»2010/6/15 1:44

CISC

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The fact that most modern OS are built using this version isn't enough as an "extensive" test ?

Not terribly extensive, no; building random stuff does not qualify as a test, and had you bothered reading the changelogs you would find out that it even failed those quite miserably.

We've been down this road before though so it would be nice if we could stop repeating the same pattern every time and just accept that GCC 2.95.3 is currently the best supported compiler from the MorphOS Development Team and be happy that you finally have an official release of a very recent GCC4.

- CISC

»2010/6/15 11:37

Minuous

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I don't run MorphOS but I'm interested in making my software as compatible to it as possible. So I downloaded the SDK to read the docs, however since I can't run the Installer I have no way of unpacking the sdk.pack file. I tried using various unarchivers but none of them recognize this format. Is there any tool for OS3 or DOS/Windows that will unpack this file? Thanks.

»2010/6/15 20:04

Fab

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There's your answer a bit earlier in this thread: xz format.

»2010/6/15 23:56

Minuous

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Wow, talk about making things needlessly hard.
There doesn't seem to be any Amiga version, and the only Windows version I could find ("xzdec") doesn't work properly.

[ Edited by Minuous On 2010/6/16 14:52 ]

»2010/6/16 3:52

Fab

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The reason is quite simple: it compresses much better. And this format isn't exactly obscure, just recent. Interesting you wouldn't find that on windows. :)

»2010/6/16 3:58

munk

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Quote:

There doesn't seem to be any Amiga version, and the only Windows version I could find ("xzdec") doesn't work properly.

FWIW, building xz for AmigaOS/m68k worked with "minor" tweaks (requires GCC3+), but I didn't test the resulting executable ;)

On Windows you can decompress the SDK with eg. 7-zip 9.x (because only those versions understand the lzma2 format).

»2010/6/16 8:10